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Bypassing Grub at startup [SOLVED]

Post by nascaredd » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:46 pm

I want to be able to go straight into Linux without having to deal with the grub page. I am using sudo nano /etc/default/grub to access the page. But after making changes and attempting to save them I get nowhere. I use ctrl + o but that doesn’t seem do anything. When I use crtl + x it gives the option to save but doesn’t allow me to exit. When I close out of terminal i get «There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it.» I am so confused.

Thanks for any help you can provide

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by Reorx » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:54 pm

Ummm, GRUB is your boot loader. without it (or if you «bypass» it) your computer won’t boot (unless you supply another boot loader). Since I assume this is not your intent, I think you might want to re-phrase what you are trying to do with GRUB.

There is a piece of software that will help you customize GRUB — it is called (appropriately enough) Grub Customizer! and it can be obtained from its PPA.

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by all41 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:39 pm

nascaredd wrote: ⤴ Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:46 pm I have tried to use terminal to bypass Grub. I have researched many answers but there is one I can’t find. After making changes how do I save them properly and where on the page would I type in ‘update-grub’? I am using sudo nano /etc/default/grub to access the page. How long does the update take and how will I know when it is done?

Thanks for any help you can provide

Would just setting your grub timeout to one second help?
You can could still hold open during boot by pressing any key

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:13 am

That would help but how do I save it? Ctl + O will save but then when I attempt to close terminal I get

I don’t know what to do at that point. How long do I wait until the process is complete and when will I know it’s complete? i know I am either missing a step or doing it wrong.

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:30 am

There is a piece of software that will help you customize GRUB — it is called (appropriately enough) Grub Customizer! and it can be obtained from its PPA.

I installed Grub Customizer. How do I access it?

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by Pjotr » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:32 am

I strongly recommend *not* to use Grub Customizer:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux . Customizer
(item 7, right column)

Just say what you wish to achieve, and I’ll try to help you with that in some other way.

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:41 am

I want to be able to go straight into Linux without having to deal with the grub page. Is it possible?

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by Mattyboy » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:44 am

nascaredd wrote: ⤴ Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:46 pm I want to be able to go straight into Linux without having to deal with the grub page. I am using sudo nano /etc/default/grub to access the page. But after making changes and attempting to save them I get nowhere. I use ctrl + o but that doesn’t seem do anything. When I use crtl + x it gives the option to save but doesn’t allow me to exit. When I close out of terminal i get «There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it.» I am so confused.

Thanks for any help you can provide

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by Pjotr » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:47 am

nascaredd wrote: ⤴ Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:41 am I want to be able to go straight into Linux without having to deal with the grub page. Is it possible?

Yes, quite easily, with a graphical editor like Xed instead of the terminal application Nano.

gksudo xed /etc/default/grub

Then change the timeout to 0.1 (not to 0, that doesn’t work).

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:55 am

Where in terminal do I paste this? Do I open a new terminal window? Do paste it on the page where I made the grub changes? When I clicked on «Save» from the drop down menu I got a bunch of errors.

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:57 am

Nevermind, I just checked it again and my change was there.

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:02 pm

The Grub page came back. The first time I made changes to the Time Out I received this message on the terminal after I saved it

** (xed:5936): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: Setting attribute metadata::xed-spell-language not supported.

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by turtlebay » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:32 pm

Strange advice, seeing as how Grub Customizer is a default program in many Debian systems including MX 17.xxx and Antix 17.xxx. Personally I cannot see why you advise against it. Apparently the makers of those systems would agree with me.

Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by nascaredd » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:52 pm

Because another poster suggested I shouldn’t and gave me a link to see why. You make a good case. If I download Grub Customizer, how would I access it?

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by JerryF » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:03 pm

There is a piece of software that will help you customize GRUB — it is called (appropriately enough) Grub Customizer! and it can be obtained from its PPA.

I installed Grub Customizer. How do I access it?

I agree with Pjotr. Don’t install Grub Customizer. I looks good and seems to work well, but then in the long run, it’s not worth it.

When I would upgrade my kernels the usual way, the Grub menu that was customized by Grub Customizer wouldn’t update automatically. There were a couple of other bugs, but don’t—nor care to—remember them.

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by JerryF » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:05 pm

Where in terminal do I paste this? Do I open a new terminal window? Do paste it on the page where I made the grub changes? When I clicked on «Save» from the drop down menu I got a bunch of errors.

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Re: Bypassing Grub at startup

Post by JerryF » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:10 pm

Pjotr wrote: ⤴ Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:47 am Yes, quite easily, with a graphical editor like Xed instead of the terminal application Nano.
.

gksudo xed /etc/default/grub

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Hmmm. mine is set to 0 and works. I bypass Grub menu and still can call it by holding the left Shift key when I need Grub menu:

# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. # For full documentation of the options in this file, see: # info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" # Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs # This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains # the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD . ) #GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef" # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"

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How to Install Linux Mint without a Bootloader

If you decide to install Linux Mint as your second Linux system, you don’t need to install a bootloader because you already have a bootloader from your primary Linux system. But the problem is that by default you cannot install Linux Mint without a bootloader as you can see above. I will show you how to overcome this obstacle.

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What is a Bootloader?

A bootloader is a program that starts your operating system. If you have several operating systems on your computer, your bootloader also allows you choose which one to boot. Normally, you should not have several bootloaders.

So, if you already have a Linux system installed, you also have a bootloader. If you decide to install a second Linux system on a separate partition, you can either overwrite the existing bootloader or keep it and install the system without a bootloader. The rule of thumb is to use that bootloader which is the latest.

There are several bootloaders available for Linux. GRUB is the most popular one. I use GRUB on all my system, Linux Mint uses GRUB as a bootloader and you are also most likely have GRUB bootloader on your system. When I talk about a bootloader here, I mean GRUB bootloader.

Linux Mint installation without GRUB

If you boot from the Linux Mint live image, start the installer by double-clicking on it, follow the installation instructions and select the manual partition, you will see that there is no option NOT to install a bootloader. I think this is a precaution of the Linux Mint team, so new users do not end up with installation without a bootloader.

But if you know what you are doing and you want to install Linux Mint without a bootloader, you need to start the installer from the command line. The Linux Mint installer is called ubiquity. Ubiquity is the installer in Ubuntu and all its derivatives. To see all options available in ubiquity, run:

Among these options, the option -b is what you need. It will install the system without a bootloader.

And when you get into the partition setup, there is no bootloader option you have seen before.

I installed Linux Mint without a bootloader this way and everything went as it supposed to. I can also confirm that this approach works for Ubuntu and KDE Neon. So, ubiquity with the option -b should work on Ubuntu and all its derivatives.

Update your main bootloader

After this installation process, you will need to update your bootloader, so it can see the new system. Also, you need to make sure that the partition with a newly installed system is mounted during the update. For example, if you installed the Linux Mint system without a bootloader on sda2, mount it:

Then update GRUB bootloader.

On Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, run:

sudo pacman -S os-prober && sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

I also explain this process for Arch Linux in more details here. If your distribution is not one of the above, search how to update a bootloader of your distribution.

Please, leave a comment below if you use any other distribution and the command to update the bootloader on your system is different from the above commands. I will add your command here.

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